
Quiett Mom POTS Talk
Robyn and Zoe, Mom and Daughter, talk about dealing with Chronic Illness as they navigate a POTS diagnosis. Everyone needs someone to confide in, relate with and get support from. Zoe and Robyn want to inspire Mothers and Daughters alike to live their best life in the most fulfilling way possible, but also realize what it means to be okay, and to not be okay especially when navigating chronic illness.
Quiett Mom POTS Talk
Quiett Mom Talks: Mental Health
Good evening. Welcome to Quiett Mom Talks. I'm Zoe. I'm Robyn. And we are here tonight to talk about today's topic, which is mental health. I said that so cheery. You did say that very cheery. It was, it is what it is. Okay, what is mental health? I'm going to have Zoe take a little, I'm going to have you intro, like you could do the definition. So, mental health is kind of a big thing in today's world. We've had a lot of current events happen, lots of things have changed within the last number of years. So, The big picture of mental health is your emotional, social, and psychological well being. Those things being management of emotions, quality of your social life, your friendships, your family, your activities, everything like that. And your psychological aspect being cognitive and coping mechanisms, things that help you process and go through life. Yeah, so in We have like four dimensions of health, physical, intellectual, emotional, and social. So mental health kind of covers three of those four. And a lot of people forget that mental health covers that intellectual part that it sometimes. We give the emotional part, it's due, but we don't always give the intellectual part. Your mental health does affect your thought process, your ability to problem solve and communicate and interact with your friends, family, and even your own job, your work and your job. So why? It's important. Is mental health important? Well, because it affects so many aspects of your life, aspects of your life, right? And then you have, there are some physical aspects that mental health touches on because some of the problems that come up with mental health stress and other things are physical things. Physical symptoms. Physical symptoms. It can be anything from like that one spot that gets sore every month during payroll or The headache that you get every Monday morning. On the Monday mornings and it's not because you went out Sunday night and, but then it's also, it can affect your immune system. It can affect how you sleep, which then can affect how everything in your body functions. But there is, a neurotransmitter that your brain works on neurotransmissions, which we're not going to go into that, but there's one that lives in your digestive tract that affects your digestive issues and things like that. So those The neurotransmitter is control of like emotions and mood and that type of thing. Yes, yes. Not necessarily a digestive neurotransmitter. Yeah. It's an emotional and it's the, I forget which one it is, I want to say serotonin, but I could be wrong. It doesn't really matter. I don't think it's serotonin. It doesn't really matter. However, it lives and it is, has been found in the gut. So a lot of times we have the, we talk about like that gut feeling or We get digestive issues when we have mental health stress. Like we get that. I don't know if this is just a me thing or if this is actual related, like people get like constipation and diarrhea and. Actual IBS type symptoms from just nervousness. Right. And I'm sure everyone can relate to that. At some point, you get the butterflies in your stomach. And that's not only just when you're nervous about something. It can be if you're excited, or if you're enjoying what you're doing, or if you're Just got given a compliment and you're like, oh that makes me feel so good. You know, it's that feeling that Brings you up or pulls you down, right? It's not always a bad thing and it's not always a good thing But it's always there because it is such a broad spectrum and it affects emotions, interactions, activities, energy, mood. There's so many different things under the umbrella of mental health that people overlook so quickly because they go straight to mental health issues. Illnesses, right? People hear the word mental health and they actually think mental illness. Yes mental health, right? Everyone has mental health. Everyone can do things to improve their mental health or to manage their mental health and your mental health can be a it is a Objective term. Yes mental health is just that mental health Do you have positive or good mental health or are you in a state of bad mental health? so when we talk about our health, somebody's health, they're either they're either in good health or bad health. Or somewhere in between. Right. But mental health is not always mental illness. Mm hmm. There's, we use the term mental wellness a lot to change that aspect. In your, in your field. In my world. I guess maybe not everybody uses it as much, but but anyways, so it's important to manage your mental health. So that you can, get through life. Like, it's important to be able to have, People say a lot they take mental Well, I guess, probably not a lot. But, personally, I have taken mental health days. And I know other people who have taken mental health days. And that can be because you are overwhelmed, or you're dealing with something emotionally, or you're uncomfortable in a social situation, or you just need a break from life to give yourself and your brain a break to decompress from the world, to build your perseverance, to increase your mental capacity, and to really just work out your own mental health. And give it that space it needs to be whatever it is, right? we all by now, I think we've all heard somebody say or use the term, I need a mental health break. in education, we use the word brain break all the time, but that's really what you're doing is you're giving the kids a mental health break, a chance for your, your brain to have a break. Basically your mental health is your brain health. It is what's going on. And the reason why it affects. All of the other dimensions of your health is because your brain is what regulates all everything mentions of your health and really everything that you do in life and in functioning in your body. So part of why mental health is so important is because we as humans have to learn how to manage our own emotions. And I feel a lot of times. Adults, and especially young adults, that might just be because I am one, they don't know how to manage their emotions. They have an emotion, say it be anger, or irritation, or anything, and they then turn around and take it out on somebody else, rather than turning into themself and dealing with that emotion and processing that emotionally. with their mental health skills that they have to think, Okay, am I really needing to be this irritated or this upset about something? What can I do to make myself feel better about it? And how can I handle this situation in a positive manner rather than going around and making everybody else feel just the way that I'm feeling right now? Right, and so that's part, that, that process is called building resilience. It's not just younger adults. I think that one of the reasons why young adults struggle so much with this is partly because they were raised by people from my generation, which People in my generation and a little bit older than me, just shut everything in, didn't we weren't mental health was not a term back then. I remember when the word stress was created and I'm not saying that nobody ever used the term stress, right? But the reason why I know this is because I remember being a teenager, maybe junior high age teenager. I remember my dad saying something to the effect of everybody has stress nowadays. Oh my gosh, that's just flipping life. Like nobody, everybody basically just deal with it. Yeah. Like deal with it. Do your job, finish what you need to do and get on with life, get on with life. And we were kind of like that grow up and get over it mindset. Exactly. And we weren't taught how to manage our health, our mental health. And I have people that I grew up with. Or graduated high school with. I'm still have a lot of friends from high school that I interact with. And a lot of those people still don't really truly understand and grasp the concept of taking care of their mental health and emotional intelligence. Emotional intelligence is where you understand your emotions and that you might be emotional and you don't take it out on someone else, right? I feel like there's a lot of people who struggle with that. And honestly, all of us do at some point. We all have our moments. Everyone can say, Oh yeah, I shouldn't have said that. Or I probably could have done that better. Or I should have handled this situation like this instead of doing that. And it's completely normal. Focusing on mental health and taking that time for yourself and doing the things that are important to keep a positive and healthy mental health It's not always going to happen. You're not going to be 100 percent good at managing your mental health. You're not going to make the correct decision about your emotions in every single situation. Right. Life sometimes gets the best of us. Emotions sometimes get the best of us. And there's not anything we can do about that except for go back and apologize and be like, Hey, I know that I shouldn't have done this and I am really sorry that I did something to hurt you or if that made you feel a certain way. That was not my intention. And honestly, that one little sentence that you say to somebody can really make such a big difference. I have been at work multiple times before where patients have either been in pain because they are there to relieve their pain, or they are just having a bad day, and they come up to me and they're kind of having like a little bit of an attitude or being a little bit over demanding or something, And then they'll go back for their appointment, they'll come back out, and they'll say to me, they'll be like, Hey, I'm really sorry for how I was acting to you. I should not have done that, because I'm just having a bad day, and I wasn't feeling well, and now I kinda had a second to think about it, and I'm, I'm really sorry about how I was acting. It is really important to Understand that that stuff happens. We all react and act in ways for lots of different reasons. Our brains have basically like three different levels of processing. The bottom level is your survival mode. Like that's what keeps you breathing and your body functioning. The things that need to work, work. The things that don't need to work can take a rest. Like that's when you're in this. survival mode. Your digestion isn't working very good because it's sending all of your energy to your hands and legs so that you can run away from the lion that's going to chase you, right? That's what the fight or flight mode is. Then, then you have, that's the survival mode. Then you have the emotional mode, which is somewhat. It's one step up, but you still don't really process executive functioning really well. Yeah. So when you're in that emotional level, you might be more apt to take things personally or get offended or be offensive when you're talking rather than being able to actually have a productive conversation. And then the next part of that. The next level in your brain is your executive functioning level. That's where your cortex is working. That's where all of your executive functions happen. And that's executive functions, meaning executive function. That's when you can have those meaningful conversations. You can listen and understand. You can able to process and go through everything that is happening. You process what time in your executive functioning part of your brain. That's where your time management skills are and where you remember to take your medications and all the things that happen in a normal day. All of the important things. If you're in that emotional state or survival state, most like in the survival state, like I was in this conference one day it was about early childhood education and they were showing us pictures of these kids and They were like little kids like two and under that were like we had to just by the picture decide like what state they were In whether they were in executive emotional or survival. Sometimes survival and emotional is hard to tell the part, tell a difference. But emotional is when you're emotional. It's when you have things that are they are happening. Like maybe you had a death in the family or maybe you had to put your put your dog down or, you know, so you might not be. There's nothing bad happening. You're not, and you don't consider yourself in a bad mental state. You just, you're not in danger. You're just, you're not in danger. You're not, yeah, you're not in fight or flight per se, but you're dealing with a lot of feelings. That's when you're emotional. Things can set you off. You can take things personal. But that's when like the little, you know, a little girl will cry because she dropped her. Like the ice cream fell off her ice cream cone and she's crying. A child who might be dealing with some bad stuff at home, if there's abuse in the family or something like that, the ice cream falls out. She's in full blown survival mode. She's pissed off. She's punching her dad. She's just angry. And each different phase or each different stage can look different for everybody depending on your history or depending on your level of your mental health or your emotional maturity. Yeah. That is going to change what stage you are in. So for me, as a 20 year old with a chronic illness, with a full time job, with a family, a boyfriend, dogs, if I get a phone call that somebody was in a car accident, I might drop myself down to survival mode, because not only am I dealing with somebody I love or care about being in a car accident, I'm also dealing with a chronic illness and symptoms that I have every day, and managing my household and my dogs and my boyfriend, and communicating everything with all of these different people, and deciding, Do I need to leave my job? Is this something I can push through? Or do I need to stop everything and go run to the scene? That's something that's going to be a little bit easier for somebody who's maybe a stay at home wife or doesn't have the type of responsibilities or has more financial freedom or is in a different level of their life where they don't have as many responsibilities or they don't have as many stressors put up directly against them. They're going to be able to handle that a little better and that might just be an emotional stage for them. Right. And when people, when you have certain things happening, and this is the part, part of learning this and me saying these things, and I talk to this to my students about these things, is that the person in front of you in the grocery store, you have no idea where they're at. They may have just got that phone call that their, their loved one was in a car accident and they're at the grocery store because they're trying to make dinner for the family of the person who was. Right. I've gotten a car accident on the way home and I'm going to get emotional. You never know what anybody is going other people's stories are. And so sometimes if you are in a state where you're in your good executive functioning state, use that and don't take offense to other people and just understand they must have had any, maybe they had an emotional day. Maybe they just lost their job. Give people the benefit of the doubt. When you have that ability, when you are In an executive functioning state, when you are living your normal life, you're not overwhelmed, you're able In good mental wellness. When you are in good mental wellness and you have a positive mental health, you have all possibilities to be kind to everyone else. And to treat everyone the way that you would want to be treated if you were having a bad day. You never know if somebody is having a bad day, so you should always assume that they are. Not necessarily saying, hey, everyone's probably feeling like crap right now. But if you treat somebody like they are having a hard time, you're gonna be nicer to them. Maybe that person was having a fine day and they just got like a compliment, or they had help from someone. Now they're gonna be like, oh, I'm in a good mood now. Maybe they'll walk down the road, see somebody who needs help with something and choose to help that person because they just had a positive impact with somebody else. It's the whole like, smiles are contagious. Right? Good kindness. Good acts are contagious. Spread kindness. Yes. It's always good to have. That be that positive influence when you can't, you can't always be that. And we know that that's not always the best. It's not always easy. Some people it's easier than others. I am a silver lining person almost annoyingly, and I know that. But I am like, yeah, constantly looking for the good things. I try not to be inappropriate with my positivity because I know sometimes you can be like, there's not, sometimes it's just not appropriate. Sometimes you just have to say, I'm sorry. Yes. And it's not appropriate to say, well, this is the good part about that because nobody cares. Like, well, your dog just died. Oh, well, at least you could go get a new dog now. Like yeah. Don't say that to somebody. Now you don't have to worry about somebody watching your dog when you go out to a concert. Yeah, no. Don't say that to somebody. Which my, one of my best friends just lost their dog and she said that, but I didn't say it to her. But along with like the spread kindness or be positive, that also helps you with your like, Direct relationships with your friends or your family or your spouse or your partner or anyone in your life Having that outlook of I don't know what they're going through Right once you are connected with someone and you maybe have that conversation of hey, how was your day today? Then they are like, okay Ugh, I had such a hard day. You can be like, oh, I'm sorry, what happened? And then they can have the freedom to tell you and lay that out on the table for you to then respond to. And if you do end up responding with toxic positivity or anything along those lines, that's not necessarily the worst thing. But you, you put yourself in the position to be supportive of their bad day. You're not in the position to tell them, well, at least this didn't happen. Yes. That's not what you're there for in that moment. Exactly. Well, and when someone is having or has had a bad day and they trust you enough to tell you about that bad day, that is. Huge. There are some people that have a lot of bad days. There are some people that have, especially people with chronic illnesses, there are people that have chronic illnesses, which this is why we started this talk or this podcast. But there are people who live in bad situations. There are people who came from Bad traumatic situations growing up. So the little minor things to that person who's dealt with trauma from the time that they were born because they're maybe they had an abusive alcoholic family member that they've dealt with their whole life. So they don't have tolerance. like you might have because you had a loving family growing up. As soon as something goes bad with people who have a history of bad things happening, it's going to trigger it. Sometimes it's like it starts this domino effect. And then when that person trusts you to tell, You because they tell you because they think that you really truly care and that's why you're asking and if you meet them back with some more of that toxicity that they grew up with or that they may have expected from their abusive mother, not from you, then it gets them like, it just throws such a huge wrench in the whole situation and it makes that person feel unsafe. It makes that person feel unloved and it makes you as much as you may think, because you might not know any better, but you might think that you're helping them because you're trying to redirect them into being better. Well, if you did this differently, then that wouldn't have happened. Or maybe you should have spent more time getting ready for your day. Maybe you shouldn't have been late. Or I don't know. All of those things are not helpful for that person, even though your intention is to be helpful. And I just want you to be better. It's not getting them better. It's getting, it's just making them, it's like rubbing their nose and their problem. If you can't say anything nice. Don't say anything at all. It's okay. Like, honestly, like if a person tells you this and they're venting and you don't have anything either positive or supportive to say, the most supportive and positive thing you can say is nothing. Just say, I'm sorry, or say nothing and let them talk. You don't have to. That person, I'm pretty sure that person isn't going to want to hear you complain or fix their problem or tell them what they should have done instead. They're going to want to have that support. So it's important in your, to protect your relationships. If you don't have to give advice, yes, that is not what that person is sharing. Most of the time, if somebody is sharing. a bad day, they're not asking for your advice. They're just telling you, this is what happened. This is why my day was bad. I'm just not in the best mood right now. That's all I need you to know. I'm not saying this like the day is done. You can't change anything that happened. Try not to make that person tell you what they need from you because they probably don't know. So if you don't know what to say, just say, That sounds like it was a rough day. And if you offer, like, if you're going to offer, is there anything I can do? That's completely fine because that leaves the choice up to them if there's something that you can do to help them. But you need to be willing to accept the answer yes, either no, there's nothing you can do. Right. Or no. B, I don't know. I don't know what I need from help. I just know today sucked and I don't want to do it anymore. And maybe you give them the remote control and let them pick what you watch on TV. So but those are things that, ways that you can manage and help each other out. Yes. And that's also just It shows why mental health is so important for everyone because on either side of that circumstance, whether you're the one with the bad day or the one hearing about someone's bad day, having a good mental health and mental wellness in that conversation is going to make both parties completely, not necessarily completely compatible, but it's going to make that experience. Relationship. and that relationship stronger and easier. It builds trust. It builds friendship. Yes. It really helps. Sometimes, like, there's a meme that's Pooh, Winnie the Pooh and Piglet. And Piglet says, Hey, Pooh, what's going on? And Pooh says, I don't remember who's talking to who, actually, but the story goes Pooh, I'm going to say that it was Pooh who was having a bad day. And Piglet says, Do you want to talk about it? And Pooh says no. And Piglet just sits up on the stoop next to him and he goes, and he goes, what are you doing? And he goes, nothing. I'm not, I don't know. I'm just going to sit with you and be with you since you're having a bad day. So just sometimes just sitting and being with that person and that can help them deal. It can help build their resistance and it can build your relationship together. Yes. So there are lots of things that can influence your ability. to help out. That kind of takes us into our next thing of what influences mental health. We kind of touched a little bit about life and experiences and environmental aspects, but Even more so, the biological side of mental health can have a much bigger impact sometimes. That kind of goes along with the nature versus nurture argument. If anyone knows anything about that, it's whether being brought up by your biologi or, by your parents. Whether your biology and your genes have a stronger impact than the environment and the upbringing of your childhood, essentially. Like, can you teach something out of some person Right. Nature is what you were born with, with your genes. Nurture is what you bring up with. Nurture is the environment that you are around. And sometimes that nature, those things kind of have a hazy line, especially as we can become adults. But when you have the biology of. When you have the history in your family of a mental illness or some sort of incapacity of understanding mental health or if you were either left as a child and you have no Traumatic childhood. Right, yeah, and that is more so about experiences and environmental things but that's still part of your process. Biology. That is something that physically happened because of who you are. And it changes your brain. It does. And the first, like, I don't remember how long exactly it is, but the first, like, two weeks of an infant's life are sometimes the most important and the most impactful. Even though you have no recollection of that when you're older, you still automatically are going to revert to what you first experienced when you were born. Building trust and knowing that somebody's there when you cry and things like that, that happens within the first, like, 12 weeks of your life. Yeah. There's a really great book that talks about this called What Happened to You, and I'm only about halfway through it, but it's really interesting about, Those really formative times in your life that can change your whole life trajectory. Yeah, the like the biological aspect kind of like we said with like having your parents leave you. It's not all about your genes. It's also about your physical health and your brain chemistry and the way that you process things because of who you are and because of your biology and That's not necessarily just your genetics and your DNA. Exactly. That also has to do with your body type and your different abilities and things that you have that were passed down from your parents. Also, the way you treat yourself. What you eat, what you consume, if you use substances or medication. Your personality. There's so many things that affect you. And then, but the good part about, All of those things, all of those things, some things you are limited with the way your brain chemistry is, your genes and things like that. And sometimes you just have an illness or something physically wrong with you that is actually physically wrong with you. Like you have a broken bone or something, but. All of the, all of the research shows that you can rewire those spots in your brain to be positive. You can come out of that. People have had some really, really traumatic events in their lives and they've come out of it or they're dealing with really, really traumatic events in their life with positive outlooks. And injuries and things like that, that people have that they just deal with. It's with on a kind of mindset basis, you, you can like, there's no denying. Sometimes there are physical things that affect your mental health and your brain, but there's also sometimes that you can just choose and you have a mindset to be a nice person and to learn how to build that resiliency. And the strength and build relationships and build a support system around you by getting resources that you need, like uh, counselors and medications and doctors and diagnosis and figuring out what's going on. But it is definitely something that You can overcome without, nothing is a death sentence, is basically what I'm saying. Except a death sentence. Except a death sentence. Don't kill people. Just don't do that. That's not at all what I was saying. I was talking like terminal illness. Oh, oh yeah. Ha! You know what I heard today about terminal illness? There are some people that have terminal and there are some people who have terminal illnesses that deal with them in a really positive way and they have a really great outlook on life and their mental health is in a really great state. You don't have to have like this longevity and this great, I mean, it's, you don't have to have a perfect life to have positive mental health and to be happy. My Theory of what you tell yourself becomes true is so real. And there was like, I don't remember when it was, but I think it was during COVID. There was this whole phase of manifestation and everyone wanting to be like, affirmations and stuff like that, but it really does help. Like if you stand in a mirror and you look at yourself and you're like, I'm strong, I'm brave, I'm powerful. And you just list off all these things. Eventually you're going to sit there and you're like, I'm powerful. I'm strong. I am brave because you eventually believe you. Yeah. If you say something or even if you think something, you're going to want to make that true. Because. Our brains or whatever are like hardwired to want to be right. Yes. So we're gonna want to prove ourselves right. We don't want to prove ourself wrong. So we don't want to sit there and be like, I really hope I have a good day today. You want to wake up in the morning and be like, I'm gonna make today a good day. Yes. And you do that and whether you're thrown a I don't know, fire at your office, or a car rear ends you. You can still have a good day, and it doesn't necessarily have to be a perfect day. Not everything has to go right, but if you have that positive mindset, and you enjoy the little things. I, with chronic illness, and with all of my symptoms that I deal with, I've really, the last probably six months or so, have started to improve. focus on the positive and celebrate little victories. So if I, I've gotten better at it with the new year, but when I would get up in the morning and I would have all of these things, I'm like, I want to do all of this today. But I wouldn't put my mind to actually doing it. I would just say, this is what I want to do today. I never planned it out. Sometimes just having it all written out or writing out what it is you want to accomplish or the things that you want to improve on on yourself that can help you have a better determination to get that done. And that is something that. Influences your mental health because then you're planning for things. That's your psychological and your cognitive aspect of it. You're Emotionally excited about it because you are and it's dopamine. Yes, and you're Enjoying the fact that you're gonna get these things done and then your social aspect of it the planning aspect of it Planning out your day improves your social life because then you can go on and to help plan things with other people and have other interactions with them without being, yeah, without being like, Oh, I want to do this with this person and then tell them that's what you want to do. And it never gets on the calendar. And I'm sure most adults can relate to this. If you don't schedule something to do with somebody on a certain day, at a certain time, it won't happen. My friends, I drive them crazy because I'm like, let's put that on the calendar. My husband, it drives him crazy. We're not doing that. I'm like, yes, we are. Because if we don't there is no, like, there is no day of the year that is titled someday. Someday never happens. My dad used to always say, tomorrow never comes, which I used to, it was annoying. Anyways, but my dad used to say tomorrow never comes, which is true because it's never tomorrow. Tomorrow is always away. Tomorrow is always somewhere else. Tomorrow is always a day away. Tomorrow Tomorrow, you're only that's exactly why I said it. So put that on your calendar lunch with your girlfriends. I used to have which I didn't, we got away from it last year, but it was like the last Wednesday of every month during golf season. It was the third Wednesday, whatever it was, it was during golf season, we would go out to dinner and it would be like, sometimes there was seven of us. Sometimes there was three of us. Sometimes it was two of us. But that happened once a month. It was not that often. It was not that exciting, but it was something that we did and making that happen. And those things, it gives you something to look forward to the next time. Those social interactions, those create the happy, good, feel good feelings, which are the endorphins and oxytocin and makes you feel connected and things like that. And that is what you really need to make your life good. And my friend's mom is. dying of cancer, and she's having a celebration of life before she leaves us, which I think is amazing. I didn't know the mom, so I'm not going, but I just think that is like the sweetest, most, and she's, she has lung cancer. I've always thought, like, that's terrible. To have your funeral or whatever be like the last things that people say, not necessarily the last, but like the important things that people say about you, like I loved this about this person, they were amazing at this, like why are they not there to hear that? Right, so she has, she's had lung cancer and It's just which my dad went through treatment with lung cancer and it was brutal like it was and so and it just took a toll on her and she's like she told her doctors that she didn't want any more treatment to fight the cancer. She just wants comfort care and so she invited everybody over to an open house at her at their house and which I think is just so I don't know. It might not even be that it's probably it's just. for her mental health. Absolutely. Like, I'm sure that's just her way of, like, getting together with everyone and enjoying it. She wants to see everyone one last time. And I just think that that's the sweetest thing. That's awesome. I hope that in my life I get to do that at the end, because that's what, how I want, I feel like. You're so much of a social person, like if you, if you don't have like a 3, 000 people party before you die, that's just going to be wrong. If not, like at my funeral, there needs to be karaoke and group singing and Dude, I've got your funeral covered. Trust me. There's no one that is going to be crying unless they are followed up by laughter. Trust me on that one. That's good. And then football a Sunday. Recap for today. We talked about mental health and mental wellness. We talked about what it is, the emotional, social, and psychological well being. We talked about how it's important to build your resilience, your perseverance, manage emotions, have healthy relationships, increase productivity. all different kinds of things, how it influences every aspect of your life, including physical health, and what influences your mental health, including your biology, your experiences, your upbringing, your environment, society, current events, anything like that. But on that note. I hope that everyone enjoyed today's video. Yes. Thank you for listening. Podcast, whatever this is called. We might post it. Thanks for listening and we will see you if you are wherever you are listening on this. If you liked our, if you liked our stuff. Yes. Like, share, download, follow us on Instagram. All of the, all of the things follow us on Instagram, I will get our Facebook page up and running. I promised that at the end. Actually, I promised that on our year end review episode that I don't think I've published yet, but we will be getting a Facebook up and running too. And we hope we wish you an executive functioning day where you are in your brain that you can think and process things and manage and communicate well. Bye. But if not, I hope that you have a little piglet that can come and sit next to you when you're having a rough day. I hope that everybody remembers, send us a message whenever you want to, tell us what you want to hear. We are planning to do our next episode, I believe, about mental illnesses, kind of touching on different things. Different mental illnesses, anxiety, depression, PTSD, some types of things like that. If there's anything specific you would like us to include, make sure to send us a message. I am on our Instagram at least once a day, and I will respond whenever I get there. And also, just as a reminder, we are not medical providers. We are not diagnosed. Disclaimer. We are not claiming that we know we are experts in any of these things. We are not doctors or medical people. We never went to medical school. We are not. We, all of the things that we learned about mental health, we learned from. Well, I go to therapy, so I learned a lot of this from my therapist. So I mean. I go to therapy too. Hi Jenny, if you're here. She's probably not. But hi. I teach. I teach health in high school. We're in the mental health unit right now. And I read lots of books. So. Yes. Anyways. Have a good night everybody. We are here for support. 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